Comments on: Fact Checking: Revisiting the Draft http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:30:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3932 azruavatar Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:13:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3932 I wasn't clear -- McCormick isn't destined to be a bust but I think he's the only one who could be saddled with that label thus far. He's got the stuff but with injuries and control, he's going to have to do something soon to hold off the youngsters. I'm not sure I'd rank him in the top ten prospects still (although it would be close). He's thrown less than 100 innings from 2005-2007 with crazy BB rates and fantastic K rates. He's the kind of pitcher every team is willing to take a flier on but doesn't always pan out. I wasn’t clear — McCormick isn’t destined to be a bust but I think he’s the only one who could be saddled with that label thus far. He’s got the stuff but with injuries and control, he’s going to have to do something soon to hold off the youngsters. I’m not sure I’d rank him in the top ten prospects still (although it would be close).

He’s thrown less than 100 innings from 2005-2007 with crazy BB rates and fantastic K rates. He’s the kind of pitcher every team is willing to take a flier on but doesn’t always pan out.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3931 erik Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:33:33 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3931 i wouldn't call mccormick a bust..yet. depends on if he can have that great velo when he comes back from his shoulder injury..i've seen him pitch, he's electric to saw the least, but also extremely wild. if he can't walk less then 4.5 per 9, i don't see how he's much good. i wouldn’t call mccormick a bust..yet. depends on if he can have that great velo when he comes back from his shoulder injury..i’ve seen him pitch, he’s electric to saw the least, but also extremely wild. if he can’t walk less then 4.5 per 9, i don’t see how he’s much good.

]]> By: brock20 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3929 brock20 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:23:06 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3929 Goldstein has top ten catchers up at BP, and to my suprise Anderson comes in at number 2. Suprised because he likes Conger. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6467 Goldstein has top ten catchers up at BP, and to my suprise Anderson comes in at number 2. Suprised because he likes Conger.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6467

]]> By: lawless http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3925 lawless Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:02:30 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3925 McCormick a bust? I just don't think you can call a guy he strikes out 11 hitters per 9 a bust. Of course he has been hit by the injury bug, which sucks, but calling the guy BA ranked in our top 10 prospects (knowing he would miss most of this season) a bust seems like a little much... PS - I really like McCormick can you tell? McCormick a bust? I just don’t think you can call a guy he strikes out 11 hitters per 9 a bust. Of course he has been hit by the injury bug, which sucks, but calling the guy BA ranked in our top 10 prospects (knowing he would miss most of this season) a bust seems like a little much…

PS - I really like McCormick can you tell?

]]> By: Lou Schuler http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3924 Lou Schuler Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:28:57 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3924 I'm not basing this on research so much as memory. But didn't our picks in '05 and '06 sign pretty quickly? Weren't the big names signed by mid-July? Tyler Greene, for example, played 35 games in the NYPL in '05, then went up to Palm Beach for 20 games, plus the playoffs. That's another reason why I'm uneasy about this draft. It doesn't seem that the scouts and cross-checkers did their homework as well as in previous seasons. In addition to Kozma and Russell, we haven't signed Stutes or Henley, the two guys who played in the CWS. By comparison, Jon Jay, who played in the '06 CWS, was signed in time to play 60 games for Quad Cities in the MWL last summer. If we sign three of the four, fine. If we don't, this is going to be an incomprehensible draft. And even if we do, right now I don't see the high-ceiling talent commensurate with our draft position. Just when I was beginning to think the Cards were on the ball with player development ... I’m not basing this on research so much as memory.

But didn’t our picks in ‘05 and ‘06 sign pretty quickly? Weren’t the big names signed by mid-July? Tyler Greene, for example, played 35 games in the NYPL in ‘05, then went up to Palm Beach for 20 games, plus the playoffs.

That’s another reason why I’m uneasy about this draft. It doesn’t seem that the scouts and cross-checkers did their homework as well as in previous seasons. In addition to Kozma and Russell, we haven’t signed Stutes or Henley, the two guys who played in the CWS. By comparison, Jon Jay, who played in the ‘06 CWS, was signed in time to play 60 games for Quad Cities in the MWL last summer.

If we sign three of the four, fine. If we don’t, this is going to be an incomprehensible draft. And even if we do, right now I don’t see the high-ceiling talent commensurate with our draft position.

Just when I was beginning to think the Cards were on the ball with player development …

]]> By: Erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3923 Erik Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:38 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3923 hey AZ, wilson signed...what the heck is wrong with you? :)...man, our readers are ON IT. that's awesome. hey AZ, wilson signed…what the heck is wrong with you? :) …man, our readers are ON IT. that’s awesome.

]]> By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3922 azruavatar Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:36:05 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3922 Nice catch everyone -- he's thrown 21 innings in the last two years. Looks like he just can't stay healthy. Nice catch everyone — he’s thrown 21 innings in the last two years. Looks like he just can’t stay healthy.

]]> By: BigJawnMize http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3920 BigJawnMize Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:28:31 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3920 We can quible about the make-up of the drafts but they atleast are better than the previous scouting departments drafts. We can quible about the make-up of the drafts but they atleast are better than the previous scouting departments drafts.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3919 erik Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:28:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3919 Hurray for research. very interesting indeed, goes against our own knee jerk reactions. also, Josh Wilson did sign. he has a shoulder injury, could be out for the season. that may be why you were unable to track him down. Hurray for research. very interesting indeed, goes against our own knee jerk reactions.

also, Josh Wilson did sign. he has a shoulder injury, could be out for the season. that may be why you were unable to track him down.

]]> By: DJ87 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3916 DJ87 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:00:25 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/18/fact-checking-revisiting-the-draft/#comment-3916 Joshua Wilson did sign. He is currently playing for the Muckdogs. Joshua Wilson did sign. He is currently playing for the Muckdogs.

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