Comments on: The Final Season http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:22:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7909 Erik Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:32:28 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7909 rb--i'm just not that high on worrell, too quirky but you can't really argue with the results. I guess i just have issues ranking someone who is going to be a middle reliever for his career. hawksworth doesn't even crack my top 20 after that miserable season of his. i think his shoulder is still hurt, and i wouldn't bet on him staying healthy. just off the cuff, and like i said, i'm not a huge fan of lists 1. rasmus 2. garcia 3. anderson 4. perez 5. ottavino 6. herron ( i keep flip flopping on who i like more, ott or TH) 7. drumroll.....kozma 8. martinez 9. mortensen 10. allen craig 11. hoffpaiur 12. mark hamilton 13. p.j. walters 14. maiques 15. boggs.... and i'm sure i could do a lot more flip flopping on some of those, too rb–i’m just not that high on worrell, too quirky but you can’t really argue with the results. I guess i just have issues ranking someone who is going to be a middle reliever for his career. hawksworth doesn’t even crack my top 20 after that miserable season of his. i think his shoulder is still hurt, and i wouldn’t bet on him staying healthy.

just off the cuff, and like i said, i’m not a huge fan of lists

1. rasmus
2. garcia
3. anderson
4. perez
5. ottavino
6. herron ( i keep flip flopping on who i like more, ott or TH)
7. drumroll…..kozma
8. martinez
9. mortensen
10. allen craig
11. hoffpaiur
12. mark hamilton
13. p.j. walters
14. maiques
15. boggs….

and i’m sure i could do a lot more flip flopping on some of those, too

]]> By: Paul http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7905 Paul Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:47:04 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7905 #7 is Martinez or Walters #7 is Martinez or Walters

]]> By: the red baron http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7904 the red baron Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:45:54 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7904 I think my top fifteen would have to go thusly: 1) Colby Rasmus 2) Jaime Garcia 3) Bryan Anderson 4) Tyler Herron 5) Chris Perez 6) Ottavino 7) Jose Martinez 8) Clay Mortenson 9) P.J. Walters 10)Joe Mather 11)Peter Kozma 12)Brad Furnish 13)Blake Hawksworth 14)De La Cruz 15)Mark Worrell or something like that. I think my top fifteen would have to go thusly:

1) Colby Rasmus
2) Jaime Garcia
3) Bryan Anderson
4) Tyler Herron
5) Chris Perez
6) Ottavino
7) Jose Martinez
8) Clay Mortenson
9) P.J. Walters
10)Joe Mather
11)Peter Kozma
12)Brad Furnish
13)Blake Hawksworth
14)De La Cruz
15)Mark Worrell

or something like that.

]]> By: Hugo http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7900 Hugo Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:06:27 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7900 Since I haven't seen it posted anywhere yet I just figured out the draft order before Free agent signings for next years draft. I found something that said the tie breaker for records is the previous years records I also assumed that game 163 counts for the draft if not this would probably change around the 23-25 picks since all three were tied at 89 W after 162 games. Tamba Bay Pittsburgh Kansas City Baltimore San Francisco Florida Cincinnati Chicago White Sox Washington Houston Texas Oakland St Louis Minnesota LA Dodgers Milwaukee Toronto Atlanta Chicago Cubs Seattle Detroit New York Mets San Diego Philadelphia Colorado Arizona LA Angels New York Yankees Cleveland Boston Since I haven’t seen it posted anywhere yet I just figured out the draft order before Free agent signings for next years draft. I found something that said the tie breaker for records is the previous years records I also assumed that game 163 counts for the draft if not this would probably change around the 23-25 picks since all three were tied at 89 W after 162 games.

Tamba Bay
Pittsburgh
Kansas City
Baltimore
San Francisco
Florida
Cincinnati
Chicago White Sox
Washington
Houston
Texas
Oakland
St Louis
Minnesota
LA Dodgers
Milwaukee
Toronto
Atlanta
Chicago Cubs
Seattle
Detroit
New York Mets
San Diego
Philadelphia
Colorado
Arizona
LA Angels
New York Yankees
Cleveland
Boston

]]> By: mateodh http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7896 mateodh Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:16:25 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7896 I've got Martinez at #7. Pretty good bat at a premium position, and not much older than Rasmus/Anderson. Then I go with Mortensen, Walters and Hoffpauir rounding out the top 10. Mortensen is probably this high because the Cardinals should know exactly what they want to do with him and won't tweak him at all, except to make him better at what he already does. Hoffpauir should be given the 2B job over Adam Kennedy right now, but I'm ok with the situation because he is a pretty good insurance policy for both Kennedy and Rolen. I’ve got Martinez at #7. Pretty good bat at a premium position, and not much older than Rasmus/Anderson. Then I go with Mortensen, Walters and Hoffpauir rounding out the top 10. Mortensen is probably this high because the Cardinals should know exactly what they want to do with him and won’t tweak him at all, except to make him better at what he already does. Hoffpauir should be given the 2B job over Adam Kennedy right now, but I’m ok with the situation because he is a pretty good insurance policy for both Kennedy and Rolen.

]]> By: Erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7890 Erik Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:17:09 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7890 BJM--Did see Rachel Leigh, and yes she is as easy on the eyes off screen as she is on. I didn't get a real close up view, but she wasn't far from where I was sitting. And they had her all dressed up in 80's wear, so it wasn't too exciting. BJM–Did see Rachel Leigh, and yes she is as easy on the eyes off screen as she is on. I didn’t get a real close up view, but she wasn’t far from where I was sitting. And they had her all dressed up in 80’s wear, so it wasn’t too exciting.

]]> By: Hugo http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7887 Hugo Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:25:03 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7887 Whitey posted on his sight that Danielson is completing the Pineiro trade and Anderson might join Team USA. It will be cool to possibly see the three of them stay on that team all summer though I think Anderson is the best bet to still be there next summer and not have been called up at the time. Whitey posted on his sight that Danielson is completing the Pineiro trade and Anderson might join Team USA. It will be cool to possibly see the three of them stay on that team all summer though I think Anderson is the best bet to still be there next summer and not have been called up at the time.

]]> By: BigJawnMize http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7886 BigJawnMize Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:20:15 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7886 Erik- Did you see Rachel Leigh Cook? I couldn't watch all "She's all That" because of Freddy Prince Jr, but I did Tivo just to her scenes. To think of it I had the same problem with "Fever Pitch". Jesica Biel, Oooohhhhh! Fredy Prince Jr, Boooooo! BJM Erik-

Did you see Rachel Leigh Cook? I couldn’t watch all “She’s all That” because of Freddy Prince Jr, but I did Tivo just to her scenes. To think of it I had the same problem with “Fever Pitch”. Jesica Biel, Oooohhhhh! Fredy Prince Jr, Boooooo!

BJM

]]> By: john http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7885 john Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:12:05 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7885 I'm going with Mortensen at 7. 68 K's and 19 walks from a groundball pitcher sounds good to me. Granted we've seen college righties dominate low-A before and then crash and burn, but I'm optimistic about Mortensen. Martinez would probably be my #8 guy. I was super high on Martinez at the end of 2005 (based on his performance in JC), but after seeing him in QC in 2006 I have a hard time thinking he'll be an impact player. But as whitey said, you can't ignore his AA performance. I'm not sure that I would have Kozma in my top 10 at this point. I like Walters better for sure. Then there are a group of interesting relievers, Motte in particular. Heck, I think Edwards might have more impact potential than Kozma. In terms of where do you rank a guy, the hardest to me might be Mather. I’m going with Mortensen at 7. 68 K’s and 19 walks from a groundball pitcher sounds good to me. Granted we’ve seen college righties dominate low-A before and then crash and burn, but I’m optimistic about Mortensen.

Martinez would probably be my #8 guy. I was super high on Martinez at the end of 2005 (based on his performance in JC), but after seeing him in QC in 2006 I have a hard time thinking he’ll be an impact player. But as whitey said, you can’t ignore his AA performance.

I’m not sure that I would have Kozma in my top 10 at this point. I like Walters better for sure. Then there are a group of interesting relievers, Motte in particular. Heck, I think Edwards might have more impact potential than Kozma.

In terms of where do you rank a guy, the hardest to me might be Mather.

]]> By: whiteyball http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7883 whiteyball Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:47:03 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/03/the-final-season/#comment-7883 I agree. I have been trying to come up with my top 10 and I always get tripped up at number 7. I have really been leaning Jose Martinez. What he did at Double A can't be ignored. Then what do you guys think? 8. Kozma? 9. Walters? I know his upside is limited but you can't ignore what he did this year. 10. Craig? www.whiteyball.com I agree. I have been trying to come up with my top 10 and I always get tripped up at number 7. I have really been leaning Jose Martinez. What he did at Double A can’t be ignored.
Then what do you guys think?
8. Kozma?
9. Walters? I know his upside is limited but you can’t ignore what he did this year.
10. Craig?

http://www.whiteyball.com

]]>