Comments on: Florida State League Top 20 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:22:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7982 azruavatar Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:10:14 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7982 Craig doesn't strike me as the most mobile of fielders. I don't think that a move to the outfield would make a sincere difference. (Would moving Miggy to LF really improve his fielding?) It's a wait and see kind of situation since his allegedly poor defense doesn't appear to be affecting his offense so there's little reason not to just leave him at third where the Cardinals don't have any fast tracked prospects. Craig doesn’t strike me as the most mobile of fielders. I don’t think that a move to the outfield would make a sincere difference. (Would moving Miggy to LF really improve his fielding?) It’s a wait and see kind of situation since his allegedly poor defense doesn’t appear to be affecting his offense so there’s little reason not to just leave him at third where the Cardinals don’t have any fast tracked prospects.

]]> By: cardsfan1 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7981 cardsfan1 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:58:03 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7981 I think the Cards have an overload of OFs, so thats why they haven't mentioned Craig moving there. I think the Cards have an overload of OFs, so thats why they haven’t mentioned Craig moving there.

]]> By: fewgoodcards http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7978 fewgoodcards Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:39:47 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7978 why does craig have to move to first if he can't play third? he was a college shortstop, he has to be athletic enough to play left. i still think he will improve enough defensively to stick at third. if oquendo is still around next spring he should be able to straighten him out. i have said it before and i'll say it again. allen craig is the next garrett atkins. he will hit .280 with 25 homers and play below average defense. why does craig have to move to first if he can’t play third? he was a college shortstop, he has to be athletic enough to play left. i still think he will improve enough defensively to stick at third. if oquendo is still around next spring he should be able to straighten him out. i have said it before and i’ll say it again. allen craig is the next garrett atkins. he will hit .280 with 25 homers and play below average defense.

]]> By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7971 azruavatar Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:00:42 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7971 Thanks for the chat quote cardsfan1. I think it's important to remember that BA places an emphasis on scouting and while they don't ignore statistics, they aren't a site that lives and breathes them and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Tyler Norrick doesn't strike me as a prospect that I would have chosen from the FSL. His BABIP was low for the season (.267) and he has some command issues as well. He's another prospect who probably will be a 5th starter or reliever if he makes it to the majors. I suspected defense was why Craig failed to make the list. I'm not sure he has enough offense to make it if he has to move to first. Let's hope he hones his skill at the hot corner. Thanks for the chat quote cardsfan1. I think it’s important to remember that BA places an emphasis on scouting and while they don’t ignore statistics, they aren’t a site that lives and breathes them and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Tyler Norrick doesn’t strike me as a prospect that I would have chosen from the FSL. His BABIP was low for the season (.267) and he has some command issues as well. He’s another prospect who probably will be a 5th starter or reliever if he makes it to the majors.

I suspected defense was why Craig failed to make the list. I’m not sure he has enough offense to make it if he has to move to first. Let’s hope he hones his skill at the hot corner.

]]> By: cardsfan1 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7966 cardsfan1 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:07:19 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7966 Here are the questions that were asked about the cardinals: Q: Carlos from Bronx NY asks: Is the FSL one of the leagues stacked with the Best Prospects? because I saw Ottavino up to 99mph and find it hard to beleive that there are 14 better prospects then him. A: J.J. Cooper: A reminder that being ranked is actually an honor, not a slight. Ottavino has some control problems, but when he was on, his combination of a heavy running fastball and slider was one of the better two-pitch combos in the league. He's really trying to refine his control more than his command at this point, as he's sometimes effective just aiming toward the middle of the plate and letting his natural movement try to paint the corners. Q: Dan from St. Louis asks: Were any other Cardinals close to making the list? I know Allan Craig and Mark Hamilton both had very good seasons. A: J.J. Cooper: Craig has legit power, and he's not a sellout pull power guy, as he can work the ball to all fields and he had a short compact swing. There's some debate about whether he can stay at third, if not he'll need all of his power to make it as a first baseman, but he's a sleeper to keep an eye on, and he was part of that tier of players from 11-35. Hamilton wasn't. He has decent power and moves well over at first base, but his swing is a long one that he needs to shorten up. Q: Jerred Gracey from York, Pa asks: Are there Cardinal pitchers who might have had a down year, but still have some upside? A: J.J. Cooper: We've already covered Ottavino, but I'll also mention Tyler Norrick as well. Norrick's stuff is fringy, but some managers believed he'll be a big leaguer as his absolute lack of fear and his willingness to attack hitters means he can have success if he keeps the ball down. Personally, I have never liked BA. I think they are verrry biased, they love kids from big time schools and if you're not from one then you get over looked. Looking at the numbers of the kids on the list it boggles me. I don't understand how Craig didn't make it. I also think that Norrick should have got consideration and Ottavino should have been higher up on the list. Here are the questions that were asked about the cardinals:
Q: Carlos from Bronx NY asks:
Is the FSL one of the leagues stacked with the Best Prospects? because I saw Ottavino up to 99mph and find it hard to beleive that there are 14 better prospects then him.

A: J.J. Cooper: A reminder that being ranked is actually an honor, not a slight. Ottavino has some control problems, but when he was on, his combination of a heavy running fastball and slider was one of the better two-pitch combos in the league. He’s really trying to refine his control more than his command at this point, as he’s sometimes effective just aiming toward the middle of the plate and letting his natural movement try to paint the corners.

Q: Dan from St. Louis asks:
Were any other Cardinals close to making the list? I know Allan Craig and Mark Hamilton both had very good seasons.

A: J.J. Cooper: Craig has legit power, and he’s not a sellout pull power guy, as he can work the ball to all fields and he had a short compact swing. There’s some debate about whether he can stay at third, if not he’ll need all of his power to make it as a first baseman, but he’s a sleeper to keep an eye on, and he was part of that tier of players from 11-35. Hamilton wasn’t. He has decent power and moves well over at first base, but his swing is a long one that he needs to shorten up.

Q: Jerred Gracey from York, Pa asks:
Are there Cardinal pitchers who might have had a down year, but still have some upside?

A: J.J. Cooper: We’ve already covered Ottavino, but I’ll also mention Tyler Norrick as well. Norrick’s stuff is fringy, but some managers believed he’ll be a big leaguer as his absolute lack of fear and his willingness to attack hitters means he can have success if he keeps the ball down.

Personally, I have never liked BA. I think they are verrry biased, they love kids from big time schools and if you’re not from one then you get over looked. Looking at the numbers of the kids on the list it boggles me. I don’t understand how Craig didn’t make it. I also think that Norrick should have got consideration and Ottavino should have been higher up on the list.

]]> By: Erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7948 Erik Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:22:15 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/04/florida-state-league-top-20/#comment-7948 i don't see how craig doesn't make it, someone ask them in the chat what was up with that snub. i saw over there that bryan anderson has been added to team usa along with rasmus and perez. what's also funny is that ott seemed rather pleased with his change up in his recent interview at veb, and his year to year splits reveal he's somehow dominated lefties, when they used to "racky tack" him, as shannon would say. my guess was the change had to be the factor there. i wonder how much these ba guys see players, and how many coaches, scouts and managers they really talk to sometime. BA--indespensible yet maddeningly vague at times. i don’t see how craig doesn’t make it, someone ask them in the chat what was up with that snub. i saw over there that bryan anderson has been added to team usa along with rasmus and perez. what’s also funny is that ott seemed rather pleased with his change up in his recent interview at veb, and his year to year splits reveal he’s somehow dominated lefties, when they used to “racky tack” him, as shannon would say. my guess was the change had to be the factor there. i wonder how much these ba guys see players, and how many coaches, scouts and managers they really talk to sometime. BA–indespensible yet maddeningly vague at times.

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