Comments on: azruavatar’s Top 25 (21-25) http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:22:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Chris http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9024 Chris Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:40:51 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9024 As for Kinney: As someone who knows Kinney I think I can shed some light on it. He had Tommy John surgery which was a success. Once he started his light toss he was extremely unlucky and ended up breaking his elbow. The doctors told him it shouldn't have any effect on his recovery from TJ surgery it just ended his throwing sessions. He will be ready by spring training. Knowing Josh he is probably hunting in Quincy or his hometown in PA between rehab right now. He is a tough dude and has fought through injuries since college. He has had problems in the past and played through them to ensure he could get the shot he got back in 06. Don't doubt that he won't come back and play at a high level again. As long as he doesn't shoot himself in the foot while hunting anyway. As for Kinney: As someone who knows Kinney I think I can shed some light on it. He had Tommy John surgery which was a success. Once he started his light toss he was extremely unlucky and ended up breaking his elbow. The doctors told him it shouldn’t have any effect on his recovery from TJ surgery it just ended his throwing sessions. He will be ready by spring training. Knowing Josh he is probably hunting in Quincy or his hometown in PA between rehab right now. He is a tough dude and has fought through injuries since college. He has had problems in the past and played through them to ensure he could get the shot he got back in 06. Don’t doubt that he won’t come back and play at a high level again. As long as he doesn’t shoot himself in the foot while hunting anyway.

]]> By: lawless http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9012 lawless Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:01:23 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9012 Nice list - Sure beats #20-25 just a few years ago. Though I ultimately would rate all of these players a bit higher myself based on ultimate upside (I think) its nice to see so many players with tools to have a chance.... I really like King notwithstanding the walks - he's pretty young to potentially be in High A next year (end of year of course)... Nice list - Sure beats #20-25 just a few years ago. Though I ultimately would rate all of these players a bit higher myself based on ultimate upside (I think) its nice to see so many players with tools to have a chance…. I really like King notwithstanding the walks - he’s pretty young to potentially be in High A next year (end of year of course)…

]]> By: cariocacardinal http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9009 cariocacardinal Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:45:02 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9009 Az - my point is that I doubt Goldstein will have King on any list this year. I'm not saying you're ranking is wrong by any means. Just saying that it may be "unique" in its emphasis on upside vs. current performance. Az - my point is that I doubt Goldstein will have King on any list this year. I’m not saying you’re ranking is wrong by any means. Just saying that it may be “unique” in its emphasis on upside vs. current performance.

]]> By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9007 azruavatar Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:31 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9007 cariocacardinal - Kevin Goldstein rated King as a sleeper pick last year at the end of his top 10. After you see who may not have made the list we can debate whether there was someone more qualified from the system. . .but I don't think there is. cariocacardinal - Kevin Goldstein rated King as a sleeper pick last year at the end of his top 10. After you see who may not have made the list we can debate whether there was someone more qualified from the system. . .but I don’t think there is.

]]> By: Liam http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9006 Liam Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:42:44 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9006 That was Kinney's second TJ surgery. I fear he may whisper away like Mike Lincoln did. That was Kinney’s second TJ surgery. I fear he may whisper away like Mike Lincoln did.

]]> By: cariocacardinal http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9004 cariocacardinal Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:30:00 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9004 Az - easy to see that you are big on "upside" and potential. I'd be surprised if there is another list anywhere that has Blake King in the top 25. Az - easy to see that you are big on “upside” and potential. I’d be surprised if there is another list anywhere that has Blake King in the top 25.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9003 erik Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:59:47 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9003 Kinney had TJ. Look for him to come back early to mid season this upcoming season. dove has shoulder issues, i'm uncertain to what extent or if he's had surgery or what, but shoulder usually = bad. (edit) hugo beat me to it. Kinney had TJ. Look for him to come back early to mid season this upcoming season. dove has shoulder issues, i’m uncertain to what extent or if he’s had surgery or what, but shoulder usually = bad. (edit) hugo beat me to it.

]]> By: Hugo http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9002 Hugo Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:55:05 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9002 Kinney had Tommy John surgery during spring training. He should be ready by next spring. Dove I am not sure of but he didn't do "bad" in his major league outings so we will just have to see what they make of him. Kinney had Tommy John surgery during spring training. He should be ready by next spring. Dove I am not sure of but he didn’t do “bad” in his major league outings so we will just have to see what they make of him.

]]> By: cardsphan04 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9000 cardsphan04 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:25:23 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-9000 So far I agree also, I really am down on greene, I almost wish they would just cut strings and get him out of the system. I think he needs a fresh start somewhere else. As far as McCormick, I pray for a healthy season, I love to see him just rear back and let er rip! It reminds me of someone like Zumya. Ya got to love the heat. In regards to Jones I feel like he is comparable to a rubix cube. The pieces are all there but he just isn't ever gonna figure it out. Hell I know I can't even get three colors in a row on a rubix cube so I don't know if he will ever get fixed. Question though? What became of Josh Kinney? and Dennis Dove? Just wondering??? Would someone in the Cardinals Orginization Just Announce Anotnetti is Moving to Clayton!!!!!! Please!!! I am tired of waitng! So far I agree also, I really am down on greene, I almost wish they would just cut strings and get him out of the system. I think he needs a fresh start somewhere else. As far as McCormick, I pray for a healthy season, I love to see him just rear back and let er rip! It reminds me of someone like Zumya. Ya got to love the heat. In regards to Jones I feel like he is comparable to a rubix cube. The pieces are all there but he just isn’t ever gonna figure it out. Hell I know I can’t even get three colors in a row on a rubix cube so I don’t know if he will ever get fixed.

Question though? What became of Josh Kinney? and Dennis Dove? Just wondering???

Would someone in the Cardinals Orginization Just Announce Anotnetti is Moving to Clayton!!!!!! Please!!! I am tired of waitng!

]]> By: Neil T. http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-8998 Neil T. Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:03:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/29/azruavatars-top-25-21-25/#comment-8998 I'd have a hard time ranking Jones above Edwards. I recognize that Edwards didn't progress as we had hoped in '07, but he has a cannon for an arm and cannon-like distance on some of his HRs. I found his success in a handful of games at Batavia very satisfying. I think his expected value (probability of making the majors x expected contribution) is significantly higher than Jones's. I’d have a hard time ranking Jones above Edwards. I recognize that Edwards didn’t progress as we had hoped in ‘07, but he has a cannon for an arm and cannon-like distance on some of his HRs. I found his success in a handful of games at Batavia very satisfying. I think his expected value (probability of making the majors x expected contribution) is significantly higher than Jones’s.

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