Comments on: A tale of two football players http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:24:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Dustin http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-14004 Dustin Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:25:36 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-14004 Johnny Damon is a great example and is still responsible for in my opinion one of the best bumper sticker I have ever seen (normally I can't stand bumper stickers) it read Johnny Damon throws like a girl Johnny Damon is a great example and is still responsible for in my opinion one of the best bumper sticker I have ever seen (normally I can’t stand bumper stickers) it read

Johnny Damon throws like a girl

]]> By: fewgoodcards http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13977 fewgoodcards Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:22:50 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13977 i agree on edmonds. he didn't have a whole lot of arm strength, but he did have ability to put his throw right on the money and that is what made his arm look good. andruw jones is the same way. neither of those guys will ever be confused with a vlad or an ichiro. i agree on edmonds. he didn’t have a whole lot of arm strength, but he did have ability to put his throw right on the money and that is what made his arm look good. andruw jones is the same way. neither of those guys will ever be confused with a vlad or an ichiro.

]]> By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13976 picklefork Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:01:32 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13976 J.Damon and J.Pierre are perfect examples of non-arms in CF. All you really need in terms of an in CF is accuracy and carry....b/c your hitting a variety of cut-off men anyway. But you gotta remember, this scouts grade pretty harsh and what we might consider a decent arm..is below avg for them. I bet they had Edmonds arm rated as avg or slightly above...but we saw with him a quick release, very good feet and setup and unreal accuracy..b/c in the end Edmonds arm wasnt elite...but he used it as a weapon. J.Damon and J.Pierre are perfect examples of non-arms in CF.

All you really need in terms of an in CF is accuracy and carry….b/c your hitting a variety of cut-off men anyway.

But you gotta remember, this scouts grade pretty harsh and what we might consider a decent arm..is below avg for them.

I bet they had Edmonds arm rated as avg or slightly above…but we saw with him a quick release, very good feet and setup and unreal accuracy..b/c in the end Edmonds arm wasnt elite…but he used it as a weapon.

]]> By: Todd http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13964 Todd Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:15:27 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13964 Old school baseball thinking is: best athlete - CF best arm - RF good hitter with no place to play - LF You don't need that good of range to play left and there aren't many hard throws. You need a guy in CF that can go and get the ball and cover some ground. I think this supersedes arm strength, and maybe that's why that was said. Andruw Jones, Jim Edmonds, Hunter...most of the guys considered really good defensive CFs have pretty good arms. Then there are guys like Juan Pierre, David DeJesus, Johnny Damon, etc. that profile quite a bit differently. Old school baseball thinking is:

best athlete - CF
best arm - RF
good hitter with no place to play - LF

You don’t need that good of range to play left and there aren’t many hard throws. You need a guy in CF that can go and get the ball and cover some ground. I think this supersedes arm strength, and maybe that’s why that was said. Andruw Jones, Jim Edmonds, Hunter…most of the guys considered really good defensive CFs have pretty good arms. Then there are guys like Juan Pierre, David DeJesus, Johnny Damon, etc. that profile quite a bit differently.

]]> By: fpslackers http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13963 fpslackers Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:45:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13963 Ingram is on the top of my watch closely list for 2008. He quietly put together a great year, showing good plate discipline and got on BA's GCL Prospect List. Then in instructs, he was one of the most impressive and displayed good power. High OBP, speedy, with a little pop, and good OF defense. Sounds like a good leadoff man to me. I wonder where he'll start the year in 2008. Is Quad Cities a stretch? Ingram is on the top of my watch closely list for 2008. He quietly put together a great year, showing good plate discipline and got on BA’s GCL Prospect List. Then in instructs, he was one of the most impressive and displayed good power. High OBP, speedy, with a little pop, and good OF defense. Sounds like a good leadoff man to me. I wonder where he’ll start the year in 2008. Is Quad Cities a stretch?

]]> By: fewgoodcards http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13962 fewgoodcards Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:24:31 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13962 really, i don't think there are many centerfielders with great arms. there aren't many outfielders at all with great arms anymore, and if they do have a great arm it seems like they play right most of the time. really, i don’t think there are many centerfielders with great arms. there aren’t many outfielders at all with great arms anymore, and if they do have a great arm it seems like they play right most of the time.

]]> By: Balkroth http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13960 Balkroth Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:11:14 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/17/a-tale-of-two-football-players/#comment-13960 "Ingram should be able to stay in center field and even has an above-average arm, which is unusual at that position. " This just strikes me as odd. Obviously you would put a person that can cover ground in CF, but I would think somewhere around 70% of CF have above average arms. That intrigues me a lot actually, has there been any articles about that for prospects? I've seen it for players in the majors, but nothing, even scouting reports, on a comparative analysis on prospects. “Ingram should be able to stay in center field and even has an above-average arm, which is unusual at that position.
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This just strikes me as odd. Obviously you would put a person that can cover ground in CF, but I would think somewhere around 70% of CF have above average arms. That intrigues me a lot actually, has there been any articles about that for prospects? I’ve seen it for players in the majors, but nothing, even scouting reports, on a comparative analysis on prospects.

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