Comments on: College sinkerballers http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:24:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: fewgoodcards http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14272 fewgoodcards Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:09:12 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14272 well they took a high school shortstop, so maybe they will take a high school lefty this year. let's take a look at the high school first round picks vs. college first round picks for the cardinals this decade. high school shaun boyd daric barton colby rasmus tyler herron pete kozma college blake williams justin pope chris lambert tyler greene mark mccormick adam ottavino chris perez clayton mortensen the only one of those guys to have played in the big leagues so far is daric barton. the best prospect among that group is colby rasmus. well they took a high school shortstop, so maybe they will take a high school lefty this year.

let’s take a look at the high school first round picks vs. college first round picks for the cardinals this decade.

high school
shaun boyd
daric barton
colby rasmus
tyler herron
pete kozma

college
blake williams
justin pope
chris lambert
tyler greene
mark mccormick
adam ottavino
chris perez
clayton mortensen

the only one of those guys to have played in the big leagues so far is daric barton. the best prospect among that group is colby rasmus.

]]> By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14268 picklefork Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:43:00 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14268 I did some half-arsed research before the draft last year and it was something like 20 years since the Cards took a HS SS in round 1 and its been something like 32 years since they took a HS LHP in the 1st round and that guy was none other then Leon Durham...who never pitched. So you would think that 2 of the most premium positions in baseball LH pitching and SS would have been more of a priority Balance is all I want, I dont care if they take a HS'er or a College player, a hitter or a pitcher...just dont take 4 or 5 of the same type of guys in the first 10 rounds. Just follow the upside driven, balanced approach of 2005. Funny about that draft, the supposed more polished easier to project College players (Greene/McCormick) are behind the raw, less polished HS'er (Rasmus, Anderson, Herron) on the same draft class. When the Cards select a HS'er, they usually do a good job....that just frustrates me more on why they dont do it more often. I did some half-arsed research before the draft last year and it was something like 20 years since the Cards took a HS SS in round 1 and its been something like 32 years since they took a HS LHP in the 1st round and that guy was none other then Leon Durham…who never pitched.

So you would think that 2 of the most premium positions in baseball LH pitching and SS would have been more of a priority

Balance is all I want, I dont care if they take a HS’er or a College player, a hitter or a pitcher…just dont take 4 or 5 of the same type of guys in the first 10 rounds.

Just follow the upside driven, balanced approach of 2005.

Funny about that draft, the supposed more polished easier to project College players (Greene/McCormick) are behind the raw, less polished HS’er (Rasmus, Anderson, Herron) on the same draft class.

When the Cards select a HS’er, they usually do a good job….that just frustrates me more on why they dont do it more often.

]]> By: Tim http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14258 Tim Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:43:19 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14258 How bout we take a high school pitcher for once. If Mellville is still there and the cards don't pick him I'm gonna freak. They said they were gonna start drafting more Missouri kids anyway. They can't let anymore Ryan Howards and Mark Buerlle's slip threw their hands. How bout we take a high school pitcher for once. If Mellville is still there and the cards don’t pick him I’m gonna freak. They said they were gonna start drafting more Missouri kids anyway. They can’t let anymore Ryan Howards and Mark Buerlle’s slip threw their hands.

]]> By: Swirls_AEPi http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14226 Swirls_AEPi Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:20:28 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14226 "Save big money and take home the grand prize with the MVP pack from Mediacom! Call 1-800-CABLETV!" “Save big money and take home the grand prize with the MVP pack from Mediacom! Call 1-800-CABLETV!”

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14224 erik Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:54:35 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14224 i have the commie pink-o's right now. they won't put the BTN on there. i truly hate mediacom. they jack up their rates and don't have half the channels i really want. not to mention, they annoy me to no end with their insanely poorly written tv commercials. i have the commie pink-o’s right now. they won’t put the BTN on there. i truly hate mediacom. they jack up their rates and don’t have half the channels i really want. not to mention, they annoy me to no end with their insanely poorly written tv commercials.

]]> By: Swirls_AEPi http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14223 Swirls_AEPi Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:48:35 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14223 We get the Big Ten Network with cable in Marshalltown, erik. Granted, it means you have to deal with the communist bastard Mediacom. We get the Big Ten Network with cable in Marshalltown, erik. Granted, it means you have to deal with the communist bastard Mediacom.

]]> By: fewgoodcards http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14222 fewgoodcards Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:27:33 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14222 i live in central illinois and we don't get big ten network either. they don't even get it in champaign. as for shafer, he is another guy i would like to get in the sandwich round. i think it is a group of shafer, putnam, and lance lynn from mississippi. i live in central illinois and we don’t get big ten network either. they don’t even get it in champaign.

as for shafer, he is another guy i would like to get in the sandwich round. i think it is a group of shafer, putnam, and lance lynn from mississippi.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14218 erik Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:09:27 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14218 ugh, don't even start talking to me about he big 10 network...i have cable, and they don't have it here in cedar rapids. can you imagine?!? the Hawkeyes are 35 minutes away and they are never on tv for basketball, and football is on less then half the time... and i wanted to watch the baseball, but can i...nooooooooooooo. and i live in an apartment, i have no other choice but cable. ugh, don’t even start talking to me about he big 10 network…i have cable, and they don’t have it here in cedar rapids. can you imagine?!? the Hawkeyes are 35 minutes away and they are never on tv for basketball, and football is on less then half the time… and i wanted to watch the baseball, but can i…nooooooooooooo. and i live in an apartment, i have no other choice but cable.

]]> By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14217 picklefork Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:50:15 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14217 A couple of random thoughts. Those with a Dish will probably see a bunch of Putnam this Spring on the Big Ten Network....so keep an eye out for that. Another thought is, some JUCO schools have already started their seasons....Cards fav JUCO to pluck players from Palm Beach CC has began its season. Another pitcher who I like last year and doesnt get talked about much is Stephen Porlier from Oklahoma. I caught him on his best day of the 2007 season and he was lights out. A big RHP with a easy motion, consistently sitting in the low to mid 90's with an avg slider and an above avg change..was drafted last year as a soph eligible....a name to keep an eye on as he fits the Cards profile. One local name who also fits the mold is Aaron Schafer from Wichita State...if he is healthy is looks like an A.J. Burnett clone...but like Burnett his talent is almost always overshadowed by his lack of health. Just a couple of weeks away from the start of the season....dont forget to earmark http://www.cstv.com/xxl/ Allows to you watch free baseball games and even more if you subscribe. A couple of random thoughts.

Those with a Dish will probably see a bunch of Putnam this Spring on the Big Ten Network….so keep an eye out for that.

Another thought is, some JUCO schools have already started their seasons….Cards fav JUCO to pluck players from Palm Beach CC has began its season.

Another pitcher who I like last year and doesnt get talked about much is Stephen Porlier from Oklahoma. I caught him on his best day of the 2007 season and he was lights out. A big RHP with a easy motion, consistently sitting in the low to mid 90’s with an avg slider and an above avg change..was drafted last year as a soph eligible….a name to keep an eye on as he fits the Cards profile.

One local name who also fits the mold is Aaron Schafer from Wichita State…if he is healthy is looks like an A.J. Burnett clone…but like Burnett his talent is almost always overshadowed by his lack of health.

Just a couple of weeks away from the start of the season….dont forget to earmark

http://www.cstv.com/xxl/

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]]> By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/29/college-sinkerballers/#comment-14213 picklefork Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:07:11 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=888#comment-14213 I too think #13 is too high, Thompson out of UVA is a more likely candidate and better value at #13...but this is all subjective..Putnam can go out and be lights out and we could be hoping he is still around when we pick...unlikely but things change. I still of the belief you dont take a RHP college pitcher with a sub 9 K's per 9 stat line...if you cant make college hitters swing in miss how is that going to translate to the Pro's...even if your an extreme GB pitcher. This is why I am still not sold on A.Crow yet. I too think #13 is too high, Thompson out of UVA is a more likely candidate and better value at #13…but this is all subjective..Putnam can go out and be lights out and we could be hoping he is still around when we pick…unlikely but things change.

I still of the belief you dont take a RHP college pitcher with a sub 9 K’s per 9 stat line…if you cant make college hitters swing in miss how is that going to translate to the Pro’s…even if your an extreme GB pitcher.

This is why I am still not sold on A.Crow yet.

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