Comments on: Daily Farm Report 6/13/08 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Beau http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18817 Beau Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:11:16 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18817 Its out to lunch to think the As spent $9M on their lousy Moneyball draft. What a hoot. Its out to lunch to think the As spent $9M on their lousy Moneyball draft. What a hoot.

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By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18735 picklefork Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:15:05 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18735 I emailed the host of the 550 sports show and asked him about the Vuch interview. Said the interview will re-air today on the post game. He also confirmed the Vuch said Niko Vazquez has signed. So Cards fans rejoice! I emailed the host of the 550 sports show and asked him about the Vuch interview.

Said the interview will re-air today on the post game.

He also confirmed the Vuch said Niko Vazquez has signed.

So Cards fans rejoice!

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By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18720 picklefork Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:58:18 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18720 I like Kinsler...but over the next 5 years I think I would rather have Garica then Kinsler. That is just me, Kinsler is a good ballplayer, no doubt. But in my mind a #2 potential LH starter is more valuable and harder to find then a good offensive 2B. That is just my way of looking at things...which is usually the wrong way:) I like Kinsler…but over the next 5 years I think I would rather have Garica then Kinsler.

That is just me, Kinsler is a good ballplayer, no doubt.

But in my mind a #2 potential LH starter is more valuable and harder to find then a good offensive 2B.

That is just my way of looking at things…which is usually the wrong way:)

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By: SleepyCA http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18717 SleepyCA Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:29:39 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18717 picklefork- Kinsler has 7 HR on the road and 2 HR at home this year. Arlington has helped his batting average, but his power is real. I am very surprised that Harris was forced to report. He definitely needs to do his service time, but just last year bonuses were being offered to ensigns and LT's to get out early to save money... picklefork- Kinsler has 7 HR on the road and 2 HR at home this year. Arlington has helped his batting average, but his power is real.

I am very surprised that Harris was forced to report. He definitely needs to do his service time, but just last year bonuses were being offered to ensigns and LT’s to get out early to save money…

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By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18716 picklefork Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:58:20 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18716 Cardstalk in the draft thread... I didnt hear it myself..sorry...but I do know that Vuch was on for quite a long time on the 550 KTRS talking about draft/minors and everything Cards during the 7pm hour. I dont think KTRS achieves their shows....so I until I hear it I cant say for 100% sure its true. But I doubt someone would lie and its not like Niko hasnt mentioned he wanted to turn pro. If true, great news and congrats to the Cards for being aggressive and getting these guys signed! Cardstalk in the draft thread…

I didnt hear it myself..sorry…but I do know that Vuch was on for quite a long time on the 550 KTRS talking about draft/minors and everything Cards during the 7pm hour.

I dont think KTRS achieves their shows….so I until I hear it I cant say for 100% sure its true.

But I doubt someone would lie and its not like Niko hasnt mentioned he wanted to turn pro.

If true, great news and congrats to the Cards for being aggressive and getting these guys signed!

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By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18715 erik Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:51:28 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18715 Yes!! Where'd you here that, p'fork? Yes!! Where’d you here that, p’fork?

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By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18714 picklefork Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:25:50 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18714 Supposedly, John Vuch is reporting teen sensation Niko V. has signed with the Cards:) And that Wallace is very close to a deal. Supposedly, John Vuch is reporting teen sensation Niko V. has signed with the Cards:)

And that Wallace is very close to a deal.

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By: Ryan http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18713 Ryan Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:22:12 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18713 "This is just very very weak use of game theory in the draft room. Some people want to use it to point out Beane’s genius, however to me it always seemed like a weakness." The A's had (I believe) $9 million to spend on their draft picks. They chose Brown because they believed him in that much, and he was only written off because he was fat. They had to take guys who would accept lower signing bonuses. "Michael Lewis called Oakland’s hodge-podge of draft picks Moneyball, to market his book" No, he called it "Moneyball" because that's the name of the process of what the A's were doing. The draft is only an aspect of it. I won't disagree that the A's made some poor choices, but it's silly to disparage their draft when poor choices are made hundreds and hundreds of times in the draft every year. For a team wth a low signing bonus budget to produce an All-Star caliber OF, a #2-3 starter and a capable backup catcher (who retired), that's not a bad haul. Compare that to the Yankees, who came out with Brad Halsey. “This is just very very weak use of game theory in the draft room. Some people want to use it to point out Beane’s genius, however to me it always seemed like a weakness.”

The A’s had (I believe) $9 million to spend on their draft picks. They chose Brown because they believed him in that much, and he was only written off because he was fat. They had to take guys who would accept lower signing bonuses.

“Michael Lewis called Oakland’s hodge-podge of draft picks Moneyball, to market his book”

No, he called it “Moneyball” because that’s the name of the process of what the A’s were doing. The draft is only an aspect of it.

I won’t disagree that the A’s made some poor choices, but it’s silly to disparage their draft when poor choices are made hundreds and hundreds of times in the draft every year. For a team wth a low signing bonus budget to produce an All-Star caliber OF, a #2-3 starter and a capable backup catcher (who retired), that’s not a bad haul. Compare that to the Yankees, who came out with Brad Halsey.

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By: Matt http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18712 Matt Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:26:53 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18712 Loyal reader, first time commenter. I just have to agree with picklefork and NASA, Garcia should be untouchable. Kinsler is a fine player, but a career .244 .317 .389 .706 away from Arlington. You need to get back much more than that kind of production if you are even gonna think about moving Garcia. If we wouldn't trade Rasmus for someone, we shoudn''t trade Garcia for them either. Loyal reader, first time commenter. I just have to agree with picklefork and NASA, Garcia should be untouchable. Kinsler is a fine player, but a career .244 .317 .389 .706 away from Arlington. You need to get back much more than that kind of production if you are even gonna think about moving Garcia. If we wouldn’t trade Rasmus for someone, we shoudn”t trade Garcia for them either.

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By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/13/daily-farm-report-61308/#comment-18710 erik Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:06:43 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1349#comment-18710 In the Moneyball draft, Swisher had both great stats and scouts loved him. It was both. In the Moneyball draft, Swisher had both great stats and scouts loved him. It was both.

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