Comments on: Daily Farm Report - 7/2/08 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:10:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: whopperman http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19509 whopperman Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:45:19 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19509 My guess is that it has something to do with Gulin pitching. IIRC he's a lefty who throws absolutely nothing but junk -- the kind that Jim Edmonds always got the night off against. My guess is that it has something to do with Gulin pitching. IIRC he’s a lefty who throws absolutely nothing but junk — the kind that Jim Edmonds always got the night off against.

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By: Alec http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19500 Alec Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:10:34 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19500 Colby has the night off again??? Something wrong? Colby has the night off again??? Something wrong?

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By: Hugo http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19490 Hugo Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:03:30 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19490 Howard, on the bottom of the site is erik's email address: eriknmanningATgmailDOTcom Howard, on the bottom of the site is erik’s email address:

eriknmanningATgmailDOTcom

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By: CJ http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19488 CJ Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:01:19 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19488 What would we do with Holliday after this year? Ankiel has 30+ HR power, and is great in the OF, Rasmus has the potential to be a gold glover in the future, and it sound like a 20-20 guy, and Ludwick looks like he can be an all around above average player. I would rather see us save the money and prospects and get a to notch SS this off-season. Maybe even a healthy pitcher. The last thing we need to do is dismantle our minors for a rental, and an expensive OF who would further crowd the OF. Without stockpiling good playrs in the minors the last few years we would not even be where we are today. The last thing we need to do is go back to an aging group of expensive veterans. What would we do with Holliday after this year? Ankiel has 30+ HR power, and is great in the OF, Rasmus has the potential to be a gold glover in the future, and it sound like a 20-20 guy, and Ludwick looks like he can be an all around above average player.
I would rather see us save the money and prospects and get a to notch SS this off-season. Maybe even a healthy pitcher.
The last thing we need to do is dismantle our minors for a rental, and an expensive OF who would further crowd the OF.
Without stockpiling good playrs in the minors the last few years we would not even be where we are today. The last thing we need to do is go back to an aging group of expensive veterans.

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By: mike http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19487 mike Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:56:16 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19487 Good points Chris and you're right. I was just trying to think of the prospects in our system that are most comparable to those involved in the Tex trade. Andrus, in my opinion, is a ridiculously overrated prospect though. I've just never seen anything about him that warrants his incredible hype. Good points Chris and you’re right. I was just trying to think of the prospects in our system that are most comparable to those involved in the Tex trade.

Andrus, in my opinion, is a ridiculously overrated prospect though. I’ve just never seen anything about him that warrants his incredible hype.

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By: meat http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19486 meat Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:50:29 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19486 Dunno if this has been mentioned in previous Holliday discussions... In 1297 PA away from Coors field, Matt Holliday is .277/.340/.450. Now, it HAS climbed every year and is doing so again this year (.309/.401/.472), but I need to be convinced that it's worth Garcia, Anderson and others. I don't see it, especially when he'll get Pujols money in the next two years. Dunno if this has been mentioned in previous Holliday discussions…

In 1297 PA away from Coors field, Matt Holliday is .277/.340/.450. Now, it HAS climbed every year and is doing so again this year (.309/.401/.472), but I need to be convinced that it’s worth Garcia, Anderson and others. I don’t see it, especially when he’ll get Pujols money in the next two years.

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By: Chris http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19484 Chris Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:33:13 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19484 Unfortunately Mike I disagree with your comparison for the Teixeira trade. I think you may be putting more value on the Cards prospects than in reality. Salty is way more valuable a piece than Anderson. While Anderson will probably be a .290-.300 mlb catcher, Salty has the potential to be a consistent 30 hr catcher. Not even really that close in terms of value. The Andrus and Kozma differential once again favors Texas. There probably aren't any GMs or scouts that would say Kozma is on the same level as Andrus. The Todd and Feliz comparison is very interesting, because like Shh I think it favors Feliz on pure talent, but Todd to me represents someone who will be no worse than a #4 MLB starter. However on pure value Feliz probably would rank higher. In order for the Cards to get Holliday, unless Mo robs Colorado, it will take a similar bounty as the one seen for Teixara. However, if you want a true comparison you will see a haul of Rasmus, Garcia, Anderson, Addition, Daryl Jones. To me that is way to much for a season and a half of Holliday. Unfortunately Mike I disagree with your comparison for the Teixeira trade. I think you may be putting more value on the Cards prospects than in reality.

Salty is way more valuable a piece than Anderson. While Anderson will probably be a .290-.300 mlb catcher, Salty has the potential to be a consistent 30 hr catcher. Not even really that close in terms of value.

The Andrus and Kozma differential once again favors Texas. There probably aren’t any GMs or scouts that would say Kozma is on the same level as Andrus.

The Todd and Feliz comparison is very interesting, because like Shh I think it favors Feliz on pure talent, but Todd to me represents someone who will be no worse than a #4 MLB starter. However on pure value Feliz probably would rank higher.

In order for the Cards to get Holliday, unless Mo robs Colorado, it will take a similar bounty as the one seen for Teixara. However, if you want a true comparison you will see a haul of Rasmus, Garcia, Anderson, Addition, Daryl Jones. To me that is way to much for a season and a half of Holliday.

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By: Shi http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19481 Shi Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:00:05 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19481 Do we even need to trade for Holliday? It is not like we are short in the outfield. But his stats would look great at second base...(I know, just saying) Do we even need to trade for Holliday? It is not like we are short in the outfield. But his stats would look great at second base…(I know, just saying)

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By: Shhh http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19479 Shhh Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:55:49 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19479 Also, the Rockies don't want/need Anderson. They have Iannetta. Also, the Rockies don’t want/need Anderson. They have Iannetta.

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By: Shhh http://futureredbirds.com/2008/07/02/daily-farm-report-7208/#comment-19478 Shhh Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:53:36 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1508#comment-19478 Feliz is a lot better prospect than Todd. Although Todd is more safe, Feliz has true ace potential. Feliz is a lot better prospect than Todd. Although Todd is more safe, Feliz has true ace potential.

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